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Powerful message Friday, March 28, 2008
The Sydney Morning Herald -- We have been bombarded with information on alternative fuels and fuel-saving technology. All affect petrol prices, the environment, being green and global warming. But there are so many new terms and ideas, how do we decide between diesel, petrol, LPG, hydrogen, ethanol, fuel cells, hybrid, green cars, fuel consumption, carbon dioxide, greenhouse gases and RON (who's he again)? Which alternative is better? Or should we just sit back and wait? After all, many people are adamant hydrogen is the way forward. But that technology won't be widely available until about 2020.
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	Friday, March 28, 2008 The Sydney Morning Herald -- We have been bombarded with information on alternative fuels and fuel-saving technology. All affect petrol prices, the environment, being green and global warming. But there are so many new terms and ideas, how do we decide between diesel, petrol, LPG, hydrogen, ethanol, fuel cells, hybrid, green cars, fuel consumption, carbon dioxide, greenhouse gases and RON (who's he again)? Which alternative is better? Or should we just sit back and wait? After all, many people are adamant hydrogen is the way forward. But that technology won't be widely available until about 2020. Visit The Sydney Morning Herald for full article

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Jacks45 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,302 Points:252,300 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 10:16:17 AM	Ignore Jacks45 Report Abuse
	well lets see more action and less mouthing off in Washington on what to do.
Japsmith All-Star Author Tacoma Posts:697 Points:146,265 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 10:15:21 AM	Ignore Japsmith Report Abuse
	As with anything you take either jump in early or you patiently wait. Those who are in early have the pros of reaping the benefits of the new technology. The cons are both in price and the possibility of that technology being scrapped or shelved. Ask those who bought Beta tapes, CD movies, and most recently HD movies since it looks like Blue Ray will be the standard in that market.
Chazzer Champion Author Nevada Posts:7,150 Points:1,546,960 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 10:11:12 AM	Ignore Chazzer Report Abuse
	We'll just have to wait and see what will be the norm!
White_Eagle Rookie Author New Jersey Posts:92 Points:79,930 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 10:02:00 AM	Ignore White_Eagle Report Abuse
	On April Fool's Day, give yourself extra time to get where you're going. Let's all be fools and drive 10 mph slower than the speed limit to protest price gouging and save fuel. If two fools drive side by side, 10 mph under the speed limit and occupy both lanes on one side of a four lane highway, people will notice.
1alden Veteran Author Twin Cities Posts:354 Points:92,490 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:55:36 AM	Ignore 1alden Report Abuse
	A lot of talk, now let's see some action.
PetrolKingNC Veteran Author Charlotte Posts:324 Points:69,645 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:55:22 AM	Ignore PetrolKingNC Report Abuse
	greed is good, god bless the oil barons!
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:4,810 Points:933,020 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:52:39 AM	Ignore bicycler Report Abuse
	Interesting article . I think that we will sit back & see wnich wins out,probably because the industry, the oilbarons jumps in to the frey.
tarbaby1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,164 Points:566,220 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:50:07 AM	Ignore tarbaby1 Report Abuse
	Freedom to choose! How good can it get?!?! Keep the government out!
1Calvin2 Champion Author Hamilton Posts:2,740 Points:887,485 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:47:45 AM	Ignore 1Calvin2 Report Abuse
	so confused!!
Jizme All-Star Author Lincoln Posts:664 Points:1,094,740 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:47:20 AM	Ignore Jizme Report Abuse
	They are producing hydrogen now from water and aluminum and they have the cars now.
racerdj All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:649 Points:239,260 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:45:25 AM	Ignore racerdj Report Abuse
	Ditto...Matts_Pap!
rjoeh All-Star Author Michigan Posts:524 Points:889,310 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:43:46 AM	Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse
	The final answer will not be easy
tags610 Champion Author Lincoln Posts:1,351 Points:327,425 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:41:39 AM	Ignore tags610 Report Abuse
	I agree with Matts_pap
RCinNM Champion Author New Mexico Posts:3,378 Points:346,185 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:33:08 AM	Ignore RCinNM Report Abuse
	Drill more, import less, raise prices on exports.
Matts_Pap Veteran Author Pennsylvania Posts:312 Points:64,195 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:31:52 AM	Ignore Matts_Pap Report Abuse
	So many choices; so little action!!!!
Jahrahnimo Veteran Author Georgia Posts:399 Points:96,675 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:30:28 AM	Ignore Jahrahnimo Report Abuse
	Cut the politics and make good decisions....
c47 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,260 Points:487,765 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:28:23 AM	Ignore c47 Report Abuse
	Confusing!!
KO292 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:976 Points:371,640 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:27:54 AM	Ignore KO292 Report Abuse
	what else is new
mrpc90 Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,066 Points:256,550 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:22:38 AM	Ignore mrpc90 Report Abuse
	Here's another powerful message... It is time to drill for oil in ANWR.
The_WB Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,535 Points:300,450 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:20:26 AM	Ignore The_WB Report Abuse
	OK
papou Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,772 Points:300,320 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:16:13 AM	Ignore papou Report Abuse
	Whats new !
cudatim Veteran Author San Antonio Posts:374 Points:237,715 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:12:16 AM	Ignore cudatim Report Abuse
	Unfortunately the best answer will probably not be the one that is adopted. Someone will control what comes forward based on how much money can be made and not what will do the best for all concerned.
DieselFord All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:574 Points:138,935 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:07:54 AM	Ignore DieselFord Report Abuse
	The need is fixing the dollar. To fix the dollar need to quit spending what we do not have except with credit.
rvnvet70 All-Star Author Michigan Posts:940 Points:812,010 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:06:06 AM	Ignore rvnvet70 Report Abuse
	Just trust the government. They know whats good for you.
Mazdaman7Q Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,853 Points:601,785 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:06:03 AM	Ignore Mazdaman7Q Report Abuse
	No reason why we can't attack the problem from all angles... We have the people and the grotesque amount of profits that the oil companies are getting!
smwhite All-Star Author Indiana Posts:692 Points:277,670 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:00:04 AM	Ignore smwhite Report Abuse
	I can't retire now like onethumb, but I'm sure going to try and figure out some way to drive less or spend less on gas.
onethumb All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:796 Points:287,705 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:53:42 AM	Ignore onethumb Report Abuse
	I'm Retireing now.
ArboretumCop Veteran Author Richmond Posts:276 Points:821,990 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:52:54 AM	Ignore ArboretumCop Report Abuse
	I get 32MPG to 37MPG on my diesel cars, both which weigh over 35oo lbs.
Gassie1 Champion Author Akron Posts:3,351 Points:373,660 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:49:40 AM	Ignore Gassie1 Report Abuse
	2020 is a news program
HockeyLady Veteran Author New Jersey Posts:362 Points:749,195 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:46:11 AM	Ignore HockeyLady Report Abuse
	the grass is always greener somewhere else--like in the future
Dipstick1 All-Star Author Texas Posts:766 Points:638,310 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:44:51 AM	Ignore Dipstick1 Report Abuse
	OK
bug27 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,012 Points:985,375 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:35:28 AM	Ignore bug27 Report Abuse
	Be patient and let the marketplace work.
dslxcur Veteran Author Seattle Posts:418 Points:146,335 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:35:20 AM	Ignore dslxcur Report Abuse
	Dang! It could be sooner as these high fuel prices stay high..... the race is on... but it may not be fast enough as the edges are still rough for those who do not innovate technology efficiently going forward...........
Lovelee All-Star Author Detroit Posts:818 Points:265,255 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:34:03 AM	Ignore Lovelee Report Abuse
	No clear message one way or another. So let the market decide.
weenerdog All-Star Author Detroit Posts:541 Points:110,735 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:33:28 AM	Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse
	we cannot wait until 2020 for the hydrogen technology. If we would have started 10 years earlier, then it would be almost ready. We need to be more proactive, i guess we'll never learn
Zinnoil Champion Author Illinois Posts:10,666 Points:1,322,845 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:31:58 AM	Ignore Zinnoil Report Abuse
	That's what free competition (capitalism) is all about.
cv Champion Author Raleigh Posts:5,976 Points:1,451,915 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:31:35 AM	Ignore cv Report Abuse
	More choices always seem to confuse matters.
Gellin Veteran Author Michigan Posts:492 Points:930,215 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:22:36 AM	Ignore Gellin Report Abuse
	Competition is good. The losers will get weeded out.
brutus All-Star Author Alberta Posts:792 Points:746,355 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:21:14 AM	Ignore brutus Report Abuse
	Are we confused yet?
cheapertvs All-Star Author Richmond Posts:861 Points:932,445 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:18:52 AM	Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse
	".... Any way you look at it you lose."
Captain241 Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:155 Points:167,565 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:16:05 AM	Ignore Captain241 Report Abuse
	Its going to cost whatever method they come up with, Plain & Simple
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:6,100 Points:526,185 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:14:48 AM	Ignore tomok Report Abuse
	NO Smart cars for two or any other quantity NO 3 wheel vehicles Develop existing vehicles with much higher gas mileage - 60, 70, 100 MPG. Hydrogen is NOT the answer - uses way too much electricity to produce that hydrogen. Produce more and different alternative fuels using NON FOOD sources. Limit the import of OPEC oil. Produce more renewable energy - wind, solar, tidal, hydro, etc. etc.
deannasmum Champion Author West Virginia Posts:4,836 Points:673,885 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:14:03 AM	Ignore deannasmum Report Abuse
	Who is RON?
FunkyPMonkey All-Star Author Detroit Posts:856 Points:283,425 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:13:57 AM	Ignore FunkyPMonkey Report Abuse
	Need to take a look at the movie "Back to the Future" use garbage! I bet we will have a clean country then.....
Rivermedic Veteran Author Fort Worth Posts:333 Points:60,455 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:09:37 AM	Ignore Rivermedic Report Abuse
	Can't wit for 2020, my pocket book hurts now
4warned Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:245 Points:425,640 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:08:44 AM	Ignore 4warned Report Abuse
	WE get off our lazy buts and work at it. We have been sitting in the rocking chair way to long already.
ledoy Champion Author Dayton Posts:4,265 Points:867,600 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:01:38 AM	Ignore ledoy Report Abuse
	takes to long to find out all the drawbacks
mochababy70 Veteran Author Nova Scotia Posts:272 Points:675,405 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:54:25 AM	Ignore mochababy70 Report Abuse
	wow!!!
Helms All-Star Author Fort Worth Posts:556 Points:477,585 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:48:29 AM	Ignore Helms Report Abuse
	right now none of them are better....that's the problem!!
zrcat Veteran Author Twin Cities Posts:291 Points:221,000 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:48:14 AM	Ignore zrcat Report Abuse
	What does the war in Iraq have to do with alternative fuels? Illegals cost 10 times what the war has cost. If its about money, start there, then go after ethanol. Huge tax dollars go to that joke.

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