lgppa

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2010 5:03:22 PM
It looks like they are working on the problem! Keep going!
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MidNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 8, 2010 10:10:04 PM
Rocky,
Feb 16, 2010 ... In the second hour of Rush Limbaugh's nationwide radio show Monday, February 15, he read the opening portion of our “Wind Energy's Ghosts”.
Yes, more "fair and balanced" reporting.
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Actually, here is some real news on the project.
"In 1987 the Kamaoa Wind Farm began operation with thirty-seven Mitsubishi 250 kW wind turbines with an operationally typical total peak output of 7.5 MW.[21] By 2006 the turbines at 18°59'33?N 155°40'5?W? / ?18.9925°N 155.66806°W? / 18.9925; -155.66806? (Kamaoa Wind Farm) were falling into disrepair, and they were finally shut down on August 15, 2006. At the end of August 2006, components for a new set of wind turbines were transported to South Point. The Pakini Nui project consists of 14 General Electric wind turbines constructed at 18°58'20?N 155°41'21?W? / ?18.97222°N 155.68917°W? / 18.97222; -155.68917? (Pakini Nui Wind Farm), about 1.5 miles (2.4 km) from the old Kamaoa wind farm. Completed in April 2007, Pakini Nui supplies up to 20.5 MW of power to the island electricity grid of Hawaiian Electric Industries.[22] The wind farm is operated by Tawhiri Power, LLC. It is the southern-most wind farm in the United States.[23]
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 7:09:20 PM
something about that Pacific air that helps more thinking outside the box?
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rocky23hy

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 6:36:07 PM
I wonder why they left this out? Hmmm... Wind Energy's Ghosts
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:22:03 PM
Localize the solar by homes, businesses, neighborhoods, islands.....build a local smart grid is the best for Hawaii...
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vandamme

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New York
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 10:15:56 AM
Electric just makes so much more sense there. The market for oil will start to dry up, and the price will rise as distribution shrinks, further accelerating the trend. Soon oil/gas fueled vehicles will be extinct.
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 8:39:50 AM
"...reach its goal of generating 40 percent of its electricity from renewable sources by 2030..."
Only 40%? In 20 years? Seems the goal should be loftier than that!
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gasforus

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 7:33:52 AM
Old news yesterday!
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RogerB

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 7:20:53 AM
TWO THUMBS UP. Good for Hawaii !!
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99dakota

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Providence
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 6:11:24 AM
Forget renewable, use what is cheaper!
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Bonanza

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Boston
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 5:38:49 AM
I think everyone will or should be going Renewable Energy
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Amplion

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 3:55:05 AM
POINT-OF USE Nuclear would be better
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Kamakani

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Hawaii
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 2:31:34 AM
The more the better.
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speedys

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Utah
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 2:16:21 AM
Very good for planning for the future.
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NOTSOGRN

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:58:36 AM
Are they for getting geothermal?
[Edited by: NOTSOGRN at 9/7/2010 1:59:53 AM EST]
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Scotty99QC

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:35:45 AM
Another good idea!
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ex911

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:35:21 AM
tidal power plant, that's the future...
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DellDude2

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:31:19 AM
Have they thought about tapping into geothermal energy? With so many volcanos in the area...
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Zonk

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:29:20 AM
Hope in the long term it becomes self sustaining.
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bobdec

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Florida
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:27:57 AM
They need to bump it up to 100%
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jadeusa

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:23:14 AM
Good for Hawaii - that state probably does have the best chance to produce solar power as a real alternative.
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Gerg001

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:21:52 AM
There's a lot of wind and water there.
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genef01

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:21:23 AM
Good for Hawaii. Maybe some other states will learn from the example.
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LostToo

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:18:13 AM
no
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comprof

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Houston
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:16:15 AM
In their location, I do not understand why they do not use geothermal energy.
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roadrunnerMO

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:10:02 AM
Hawaii is on their way to renewable energy. Great.
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Rt118E

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:07:12 AM
It would help as they have to import Gasoline. I wounder why they have not gone for thermo yet.
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250FORD

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:06:45 AM
I can ee why they want this being remote islands and all.
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TXGasPriceSpy

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:04:14 AM
No EV's for me.
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TheBruce2009

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 1:01:53 AM
Seems to me they are overlooking a major source of renewable energy that they should have an over abundance of: tidal power.
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jwalkerh

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:58:45 AM
They are moving in the right direction, good for Hawaii
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REKEY

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:58:04 AM
Great for Hawaii!
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PithyOpiner

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:56:38 AM
Good for the Pineapples. Looks like they are getting their act together out there in the middle of nowhere. Last time I was there I saw a lot of wave action that never let up. Tap that, people.
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CRAZYEDDIE2010

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:55:38 AM
TWO THUMBS UP.
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esorsd

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:49:51 AM
Good for them. Glad to see it.
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vulcan96

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:48:39 AM
i was really surprised to read that they don't already have a battery backup system in place.
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RedRam2005

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:45:49 AM
In a state with few resources, you have to try anything to get electricity
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aldog365

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:40:47 AM
I hope prices go down too.
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idigau22

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Washington
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:40:00 AM
Why not use Wave Energy?? There is ocean all around them!
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weenerdog

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:37:34 AM
They can use these resources
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camel1

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:35:26 AM
Hawaii needs to use the natural energy resources available to reduce its dependence on imported energy.
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JoseM

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:33:27 AM
Way to go, distribution costs of energy so far is high
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ifallsguy

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:29:40 AM
Hawaii has little in the way of renewable energy. They do have tide, wind, solar and geothermal. Produce that as power and you will have a winner
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:29:33 AM
yep, go for it
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runout9

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:26:02 AM
Totally irrelevant to pump prices.
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Eichhornchen

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:25:16 AM
Wind would definitely work
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ACTown

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:24:35 AM
Solar, wind, and wave are all possible in Hawaii.
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pyndasky

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:23:11 AM
makes sense in Hawaii... Alaska might have problems with that solar thing for at least 1/2 of the year...
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CobraLeader

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:16:34 AM
... Are they going to sell battery charges at their hotels? ...
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 12:15:04 AM
Hawaii is well suited for this type of thing. It is more difficult for the continental United States to do this. Sun Factor folks!
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